Getting started with ASP.NET

aprelium

ASP.NET is very different from classical ASP.
While ASP support needs ActiveHTML from Selisoft (which is not free), ASP.NET support in the new version of Abyss Web Server does not need any external add-on and comes at no charge: we've done the necessary to write our "bridge" from Abyss Web Server to .NET to get this working (and that's why version 2.3 took so long to be released).
All you need is to have .NET Framework 1.1 or higher correctly set up in Windows and Abyss Web Server X1/X2 version 2.3 or higher.
Open Console > Host - Configure > ASP.NET Parameters. If you receive a message informing you that you do not have a supported .NET Framework, follow the displayed link to install it (it's usually a 25-30 MB download - free). Otherwise you can start immediately using ASP.NET applications without any additional setup.
Below is an example explaining how to setup a sample ASP.NET application in Abyss Web Server:
* Download World Recipe from http://www.ex-designz.net/dl_goto.asp?id=821 .
* Unzip the file inside a directory called wr (for example) inside htdocs/
* In the wr/ subdirectory, open config.aspx, config2.aspx, and inc_databasepath.aspx with any text editor (Notepad should suffice).
* Replace in these files all the occurences of /db/recipedb.mdb with /wr/db/recipedb.mdb (or the actual virtual path of your recipedb.mdb file). World Recipe has been designed to work from the root of your host, so if you install it in a subdirectory these changes are mandatory (this is by the way listed as a required installation step in Installation.doc).
* Save the updated files.
* Open Console > Host > Configure > ASP.NET Parameters and press Add... in the table.
* Enter /wr in the Virtual path field and select 1.1 in the .NET Version list.
* Press OK twice and then press Restart
* Now browse http://yoursite/wr/index.aspx to start using the just installed ASP.NET application (and enjoy :-) ).
You can find a lot if information about this technology in http://www.asp.net or on Microsoft Web Site. There is also a great tutorial for ASP.NET beginners in http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/default.aspx .

Taellik

World Recipe download not available from link provided.

Moxxnixx

Taellik, here is a link to the page...
http://www.ex-designz.net/softwaredetail.asp?fid=821
or
Direct download...
http://www.myasp-net.com/worldrecipe_aspnet_v2_10.zip

JoeMorgan

aprelium wrote
* In the wr/ subdirectory, open config.aspx, config2.aspx, and inc_databasepath.aspx with any text editor (Notepad should suffice). .

The link I downloaded contains no config.aspx or any of those files even within the sub directories.
I will post the issue I'm trying to resolve in another topic, because I think it would be off-topic to post it here.
Thanks in advance
--Joe

aprelium-beta

JoeMorgan wrote
The link I downloaded contains no config.aspx or any of those files even within the sub directories.

The new version of World Recipe does not have these files. Just follow the instructions in the Instructions.doc file to get it configured and installed.

rdbranson

I have Net2, so supposedly I dont need active html.
But how do I make somefile.asp execute?
Or, do I have to have somefile.aspx extension?

rdbranson

I am getting the runtime error that makes the following reference:
"please create a <customErrors> tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application"
I do not have IIS set up and there is not web.config in any root directory.
Please advise.

aprelium

rdbranson,
ASP.NET is not for running .asp files. If you have a problem in the ASP.NET application you are using, contact its author.

apop

aprelium wrote
ASP.NET is very different from classical ASP.
While ASP support needs ActiveHTML from Selisoft (which is not free), ASP.NET support in the new version of Abyss Web Server does not need any external add-on and comes at no charge: we've done the necessary to write our "bridge" from Abyss Web Server to .NET to get this working (and that's why version 2.3 took so long to be released).
All you need is to have .NET Framework 1.1 or higher correctly set up in Windows and Abyss Web Server X1/X2 version 2.3 or higher.
Open Console > Host - Configure > ASP.NET Parameters. If you receive a message informing you that you do not have a supported .NET Framework, follow the displayed link to install it (it's usually a 25-30 MB download - free). Otherwise you can start immediately using ASP.NET applications without any additional setup.
Below is an example explaining how to setup a sample ASP.NET application in Abyss Web Server:
* Download World Recipe from http://www.ex-designz.net/dl_goto.asp?id=821 .
* Unzip the file inside a directory called wr (for example) inside htdocs/
* In the wr/ subdirectory, open config.aspx, config2.aspx, and inc_databasepath.aspx with any text editor (Notepad should suffice).
* Replace in these files all the occurences of /db/recipedb.mdb with /wr/db/recipedb.mdb (or the actual virtual path of your recipedb.mdb file). World Recipe has been designed to work from the root of your host, so if you install it in a subdirectory these changes are mandatory (this is by the way listed as a required installation step in Installation.doc).
* Save the updated files.
* Open Console > Host > Configure > ASP.NET Parameters and press Add... in the table.
* Enter /wr in the Virtual path field and select 1.1 in the .NET Version list.
* Press OK twice and then press Restart
* Now browse http://yoursite/wr/index.aspx to start using the just installed ASP.NET application (and enjoy :-) ).
You can find a lot if information about this technology in http://www.asp.net or on Microsoft Web Site. There is also a great tutorial for ASP.NET beginners in http://samples.gotdotnet.com/quickstart/aspplus/doc/default.aspx .

I have no experience with ASP, ASP.net etc. I'm used to PHP scripts and sometimes they can give you a lot of trouble setting them up. I've tried and tried to install World Recipe and I love the looks and features of it, but have had zero luck getting it going. If all you guys with all this knowledge have problems setting it up, there is little hope for me to get it running. I'd gladly pay for a free script like this and pay a reasonable fee for installation if such things were available, but they're not. A real shame.

aprelium

apop,
World Recipe has changed since 2006 and the instructions here may not be working on the new version. They were meant as a simple example to introduce the ASP.NET support to our users.
Please refer to the installation instructions that ship with World Recipe to know how to start using their new version.

apop

aprelium wrote
apop,
World Recipe has changed since 2006 and the instructions here may not be working on the new version. They were meant as a simple example to introduce the ASP.NET support to our users.
Please refer to the installation instructions that ship with World Recipe to know how to start using their new version.

I read the installation instructions and followed them to a tee, so your generic reply was worthless (but very convenient for you). I found a free ASP.NET host that only provides sub-domains and installed it as a test and it worked fine. All I did was copy the files to the server and it worked right out of the box with no mods whatsoever, so I've proven standard Hostgator hosting does not support ASP.NET. If you can't give common sense answers to users, you shouldn't even bother to reply. You guys that are programmers and know all about code can't relate to the fact that there are many many people out here that simply want to start a niche website and don't know anything about coding and should not HAVE to know anything about coding. The scripts should be user-friendly enough for anyone to install without all the problems involved. This is not the case with World Recipe, though. It's super easy to install and get working. It's the lack of hosts that support ASP.NET that are the problem. You guys want to create your own little atmosphere and are more concerned about being off-topic than you are about truly helping people.

aprelium

apop wrote
You guys want to create your own little atmosphere and are more concerned about being off-topic than you are about truly helping people.

We understand your frustration but we cannot provide support for each and every script that is available on the Internet. We only provide support for our software and we cannot help you with the scripts or applications that we have not written and especially if they are supported by their authors (have you asked World Recipe authors for help??).
Your quetsion was also very generic and vague. "Doesn't work" and "cannot install" do not tell us anything about the problem you have experienced. New members are advised to read http://www.aprelium.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8377 to help them better formulate their requests.

apop wrote
You guys that are programmers and know all about code can't relate to the fact that there are many many people out here that simply want to start a niche website and don't know anything about coding and should not HAVE to know anything about coding. The scripts should be user-friendly enough for anyone to install without all the problems involved.

We have not written that script. Your rant is being sent to the wrong people.

Jack_Smith

But in ASP.NET, the pages are always compiled into .Net classes housed within assemblies. This class includes both the server-side code and static HTML, so when the page is accessed for the first time, subsequent rendering of that page is serviced by executing the compiled code. All the inefficiencies of the scripting model of traditional ASP are eliminated by this. No longer had any performance difference between compiled components and server-side code embedded within a page observed. Both of them are compiled assemblies now. Also, no performance difference between interspersing server-side code blocks among static.

chromebuster

Hey folks,
All of you have been discussing the support of the author of the script in terms of ASP.net on Abyss. What is the best setup to follow if there is no direct support (which most often there isn't), for installing the application on Abyss? in other words, if an IIS and an Apache option are given for setup, which one looks closer to the Abyss realm? I find it very confusing when trying to install an already written application, and there are no clear cut instructions. I know that most ASP.net apps have a wwwroot folder, and that is the folder that serves as the root of the site, at least in IIS terms. If there is a folder of that name and you install it on Abyss, where does that leave you? My question to you is, since most authors don't supply instructions for Abyss web server, which of the two most common is it closer to?
Chromebuster

asawyer13

Would it be possible to get this running and make Abyss portable, so I could take the whole Abyss directory structure with the recipe app in it and copy it to another pc and just have it work?
I am sure I would need similar .net version? but could something like that work?